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Neijia ([personal profile] nagia) wrote2009-05-21 04:53 pm

Notes on Seventh Heaven


The bar closes at midnight on week nights. By quarter to, she wishes her stragglers would leave. She'll rise at five thirty, put some coffee on, get breakfast ready for the kids. At six, she'll drag Denzel and Marlene out of bed. At seven thirty, she drives them to school.

By nine, she'll be wide awake again, accomplishing as much as possible for Seventh Heaven--mostly just making finger-food for the bar so she can reheat it on shift--before she crashes into bed at noon. And then at two thirty it starts all over again, driving through Edge traffic to pick up Denzel and Marlene from school, two hours of homework and dinner and then the final preparations for the bar. Bar opens at five, runs until midnight. Seven straight hours of mixing drinks and microwaving food.

On Fridays, the bar opens at five PM and closes at two AM. From eight to eleven (nine to midnight in summer), Seventh Heaven hosts a live local band. She wears discreet earplugs.

Saturdays, the bar opens at four PM and closes at three AM. More live music. There's usually at least a little dancing, though she doesn't entirely encourage it. Saturdays are the days she usually ends up breaking up fights (usually around one, when everybody's drunk and physically tired and not looking forward to paying their night tab and going home).

Closed Sundays because she has to sleep and do laundry sometime. Why not Sunday?
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[personal profile] novel_machinist 2009-05-21 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
awww this makes me sort of sad for her. Someone else should break up fights for her. Even if she doesn't need it, it's a nice gesture darnit!
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[personal profile] novel_machinist 2009-05-21 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I'm aware of that.

Of course the 13 year old squeely fanbrat in me shouts RUDExTIFA OTP at the top of her lungs ;)

What I was trying to get out is that there's always this melancholy sadness about Tifa. It's fitting, and I can't view her another way, however she's so alone in canon.

Like she's still waiting for that knight to sweep her off her feet, only he or she will never show up.
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[personal profile] novel_machinist 2009-05-21 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I can absolutely agree to disagree on that. I think it's a lot of connotation that we're not seeing eye to eye on. Basically she's not looking for a rescue anymore, I agree. She's looking for a partner, and she wants someone to step up. So far no one's stepped up for her, I think. You follow?

I don't subscribe to the idea that the knight and whoever he or she rescues aren't equals. I never have.
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[personal profile] leviathanmirror 2009-05-21 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry to butt in but the connotation of "she's still waiting for that knight to sweep her off her feet" is not "the knight and the rescuee are equals."

If you need to be rescued? Generally speaking, you aren't equal in power to your rescuer. There's implicated dependence on a rescuer; you need that person to save you.

It is in no way an apt description of a relationship of equals.
Edited 2009-05-21 22:11 (UTC)
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[personal profile] novel_machinist 2009-05-21 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Everyone needs rescued every once and a while though. Yeah, Tifa doesn't need anyone to slay like... a dragon for her, or even kick ass, as she does that herself. But everyone has weaknesses where it would be nice to have someone else step in.

The scene where she finally (finally) told Cloud to get his shit together was a favorite of mine because I was worried she'd never have the emotional pull to do it.

I ah... really didn't MEAN to cause a huge debate on it, so I apologize. I was only saying that everyone needs help sometimes and Tifa never seems to GET it, really. It makes me sad for the character.
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[personal profile] leviathanmirror 2009-05-21 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a difference between rescuing and letting someone lean on you, though. Offering emotional support isn't the same as saving someone.

But yeah, Tifa could definitely use more support than she gets.
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[personal profile] novel_machinist 2009-05-21 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't really see leaning and rescuing as that different sometimes, but I can certainly see your point. I have been "rescued" by friends and my partner and I've been the "rescuer" as well. It didn't change our dynamics. It's like saying "you're a lifesaver" or "you saved my ass" No, there was no literal ass saving, but the wording's the same?

Again, sorry to cause a debate. It wasn't my intent.
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[personal profile] leviathanmirror 2009-05-21 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, clearly we don't agree on what these terms mean. If you feel 'leaning on' carries the same weight in a sentence that 'being rescued' does then that's that.

Meh, this isn't a debate, it's a minor disagreement. ^_^