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Neijia ([personal profile] nagia) wrote2011-10-28 12:20 am

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I'm probably going to need a Kuroshitsuji icon, apparently. I'm trying to resist entering the fandom, because lord knows I have enough going on, and if I've got the brain power to chillax to crazy anime, I should obviously be finishing Gifts & Treasures.

But every time I look at G&T, I just have this despairing sense of being unable to chart the journey from Point C to Point D. Sometimes I feel like there's something wrong with the fic's foundation -- not so much a matter of structure; more like it's based on a false or faulty understanding of... something. It's indefinable. Not quite a "block" (words won't come), more like "all these words keep showing up, and none of them are right, and any attempt at finding the right words makes every single one of the old words look wrong."

So instead, I'm watching Kuroshitsuji. A couple of years ago, back at the last AWA I got to go to (last year there was ridic congroup drama followed immediately by ridic Brian drama; this year I simply didn't have the money. Next year will be better), I saw the first episode and immediately wanted more. And was, naturally, unable to find it, because back then I had crap for internet and couldn't stream video or torrent.

But now that I have access to decent internets, I've got my terrible little paws on it and am watching it like delicious braincandy.

(I'm only in like episode 13 of season 1, but have read the TVT page and so at least have a few ideas of what to expect from this plot.)

And you know, as okay as I am with the fact that Sebastian pretty much has to eat Ciel's soul if the manga and (season 1) anime are going to keep the contract they made with the viewer...

That's really not that the future I want to see happen. For all that I know that the nature of the series and the characters involved means it's highly unlikely... what I want to see is a functional (if quirky and sometimes tense) relationship between Ciel, Sebastian, and Elizabeth. The kind you'd get if Ciel lived long enough to marry Lizzy, and Lizzy was perceptive enough to see the intimacy of the nebulous thing going on between Ciel and Sebastian, and Sebastian was mature enough to see that Lizzy is important to Ciel without hating her for it.

Basically, I want the fic that has all three of them meeting in the middle, without diminishing or demonizing any of the three.

Is that fic out there?
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[personal profile] shahrizai 2011-10-28 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I would say no, because I am under the impression that Kuroshitsuji fandom has no het.

[personal profile] wilhelminabenedict 2011-10-28 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I really can't interpret Sebastian's attachment to Ciel in a way that would ever lead to him being jealous of Lizzie. If anything all Ciel's human connections seem to delight Sebastian in a quite invested 'playing games with human lives' way.

Not to mention Sebastian looks just about as panicked when Lizzie is under fire as he does when Ciel is. Or...more considering he likes to lol at, mock and delay aiding Ciel in perilous situations, disregarding circumstances like Madame Red.

[personal profile] wilhelminabenedict 2011-10-28 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't seen the show yet, beyond a couple of episodes in season two, so it could be different there.
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[personal profile] scratchmist 2011-10-29 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
Hi there, popping in to say that I'm not quite sure if this what you were looking for, but I responded to someone before who was saying there weren't any good fics in this fandom before by pointing her to these ones.

Also I really don't mean to promote my own work, but I did write a few fics some time ago that at least attempted the kind of dynamic you mention: here, here and here. I do agree that it's difficult to find stories that treat Elizabeth fairly (it's funny that you mention it's Sebastian who needs to be mature enough, because that's totally true), but I can't shake how canonically important Lizzie is to Ciel, which is why I usually try to write her in that way. I write based off manga canon, though, because I never watched the whole TV series, and didn't really like how it diverged from the manga.